Mindich tapes mention mansions likely built for Zelenskyy, Yermak and Mindich himself

- 29 April, 13:17
The four-mansion site. Screenshot from a video

One of the conversations documented by the National Anti-Corruption Bureau of Ukraine (NABU) as part of the Midas case in the apartment of currently sanctioned businessman Tymur Mindich, who is suspected of corruption in the energy sector, was with a woman named Natalia and concerned the construction of mansions belonging to former deputy prime minister Oleksii Chernyshov, who is suspected of abuse of office and bribery, as well as Mindich and two other individuals referred to as "Andrii" and "Vova" [the diminutive form of Volodymyr].

Source: Ukrainska Pravda, which has published the first part of the so-called "Mindich tapes"

Details: The conversation was documented in Mindich's apartment at 9a Hrushevskoho Street on the morning of 1 July 2025. It was in Russian.

At around 11:00, Mindich speaks with a woman he calls "Natali", who is likely overseeing construction of the the four-mansion site "Dynasty" in Kozyn near Kyiv, which, Ukrainska Pravda sources say, were being built for President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, former head of the President's Office Andrii Yermak, Chernyshov and Mindich himself. This conversation may be the first indication that the sources' information is accurate, as the parties mention Chernyshov, Mindich's construction project, and construction projects belonging to Andrii and Vova.

Natalia asks Mindich what they should do about the construction, and he says everything should be mothballed and mentions "Max Donets" [likely referring to Maksym Donets, head of Zelenskyy's personal security – ed.], "Shura" and "Sigizmund" [likely businessman Oleksandr Tsukerman and former energy minister Herman Halushchenko – ed.], with whom he plans to speak later.

In the conversation, Mindich asks to be shown the house:

Mindich: "Show me what it looks like inside. And whose house is that? It's not mine."

Natalia: "That's Andrii's. I'm working on it for him as well." [Likely referring to a house in the Dynasty cooperative that Mindich and Chernyshov were building for Yermak – ed.].

They then discuss two houses – the "first" and the "fourth" – where everything has already been completed "with engineering systems inside, fans, air conditioners, underfloor heating".

Natalia: "Andrii only has the façades done, the interior is basic. And you don't even have that."

Mindich then says everything needs to be fenced off, that they should "get a dog", and keep security there permanently so that "no one gets in, including journalists" [likely referring to journalists from Bihus.Info, who later published material about the Dynasty cooperative – ed.].

They also discuss a type of stone for the façade supplied by a sole supplier named Syranchuk, and Natalia says she "cut 100,000" from those estimates, and they mention Chernyshov's surname.

Mindich: "I think he built it for Chernyshov at our expense."

They then discuss stone and concrete works.

Natalia: "He already poured the concrete for the fence between you and Vova. Only the fence remained to be installed. He kept delaying and delaying, there were only 10 metres left, then everything was abandoned and they left. And why did they leave? Because he hadn't paid people's salaries for two months."

They also discuss what trees should be planted on the first line from the Dnipro River, which trees would be "Vova's" and which would be "between Tymur and Vova", among other things.

Mindich also said the construction should be completed but legally registered in someone else's name, possibly Natalia's.

In July 2025, these mansions were discovered by journalists from Bihus.Info. Afterwards, NABU and the Specialised Anti-Corruption Prosecutor's Office of Ukraine (SAPO) opened a criminal case. Last autumn, before the projects were mothballed, the mansions were seized.

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